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Paradox 9 / 10 and Windows 7

Prestwood: Paradox 9 / 10 and Windows 7 in Paradox Setup,Vista,etc. topic (part of our Corel Paradox group).

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Paradox 9 / 10 and Windows 7 by OzPaul -Collapse +Expand
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Thread Starter... 9/23/2009

Hi, has anyone had a chance to try Paradox  9 or 10 with beta versions of Windows 7?

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Thread Started 9/23/2009 10:37:17 PM
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RE: Paradox 9 / 10 and Windows 7 by Mike Prestwood -Collapse +Expand
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Hi Paul,

I've tested Paradox 9, 10, and 11 on Windows 7 Build 7100 and so far it works just like on Windows XP. This includes working immediately after installing with none of the extensive tweaks I documented in my Can I install Paradox on Vista post. I'll test more on the RC or RTM soon and report more.

This also supports my longterm stand that the exit errors and other errors with Paradox 10 and 11 on Vista were a Microsoft caused problem, not a Corel caused problem.

Here's a screenshot of Paradox 10 on Windows 7 (no error on exit too):
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Paradox for Windows version 10 on Win 7.

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I have installed P9 on W7-64 (in the 32but mode as I understand it) & my existing apps run fine (no errors) but the speed performance has dropped dramatically. I experienced the same issue when I allowed XP to upgrade to SP3 - then I reverted back to solve the problem - not possible with W7. It was suggested to me that similar performance drops have been associated with virus scanning (i.e. try to scan exchanges of information with the file server). Is anyone aware of any settings in W7 that must be adjusted to run P9 apps at regular speeds?

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RE: Paradox 9 / 10 and Windows 7 by OzPaul -Collapse +Expand
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Thread Starter... 9/24/2009

Thanks Mike, that is reassuring. Much appreciated and I look forward to your further investigations. As much as you have recommeded we all move to another database, for us this would be inconvenient and a very costly exercise. Paradox does what we need it to do and probably will do so for many years, unless we are forced to change by technology! Regards Paul.

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RE: Paradox 9 / 10 and Windows 7 by Mike Prestwood -Collapse +Expand
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>>As much as you have recommeded we all move to another database...

Now that Windows 7 is out and Paradox 9, 10, and 11 appear to run fine on it, I can now support sticking with Paradox with a clear conscious. I even updated my The Future of Paradox post.

Now, if we can get Corel to take Paradox out of maintenance mode and make minor upgrades to it, that would at least keep power-users using it.

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Thanks so much for the encouragement.  Paradox is such a good strong product that to discard it would be a shame.  Have used it for more than ten years and it has served faithfully and has filled all our needs.  Good to know Windows 7 will continue its progress for us.

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I concur - Paradox 9 works really well on Windows 7 Home Premium

(Phew - can get on with this instead of wondering what else to use for the next 6 years !)

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Will it run on all three versions of Windows 7 Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate?

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First the short answer, yes.

Now for some details, I only have the Ultimate Edition but the differences between Pro and Ultimate will NOT make any difference. However, the Home edition does disable some business-like features but none of them should be required for Paradox to run. I'm positive Paradox will run equally well on all versions of Windows 7 including the Home edition.

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RE: Paradox 9 / 10 and Windows 7 by kwmillican -Collapse +Expand
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I've edited my previous post to show that I have tested Paradox 9 successfully on Windows 7 Home Premium. Actually, it's more than a test; no problems whatsoever after 5 days intensive use.

I would guess that as Mike's tested Ultimate, and I'm using Home Premium, it's unlikely the Pro version would be any different.

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Since was unable to get pdox10 to run on Vista, I upgraded to Windows 7 home premium from vista home premium.  I am getting the same BDE errors (network initialization failed; cannot intialiaze BDE) that i got in Vista.  Does the fact that I am using the upgrade make a difference?

I have Paradox 10 from Wordperfect office 2002.  And for whatever reason, the BDE administrator does not install (even though the installer package says it is going to install it.)  The installation hangs at the end.  I have tried installing just the utilities, just paradox, and installing the whole suite.  Same outcome.  Went to the Borland site to try get a BDE utility, it denies me permission to download.

I look forward to your advice.

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Reply Posted 12/5/2009 6:08:09 PM
RE: Paradox 9 / 10 and Windows 7 upgrade by revmikeburcher -Collapse +Expand
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Nevermind.  Days of frustration have now been resolved.  There was an old c:\PDOXUSRS.NET file from when I first tried installing it on Vista in February, which of course still had the Vista permissions (or lack threof)  Deleted the file, and everything worked beautifully.  I have hope!  Hallelujah!

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Glad to read Paradox 9 and 10 work well with Windows 7.  Does this include both the 32 bit, and 64 bit versions of Windows 7?  

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Replier... 12/17/2009

I just upgraded to Windows 7 Home Premium from Vista. Paradox works fine now that I updated my aliases however I initially installed it to the default path for a 32 bit program -Program Files (x86).You need to install it to "Program Files" (not x86) as it is in xp. Remember to do this for both the program and the shared files. What a relief. I was using it in Vista in virtual xp mode which as a real pain.

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Howdy

For months I have been using RC7100 and Paradox 11 (from X3) has worked fine.  I've just installed Windows 7 Pro and now can't get that pesky pdxregcl.exe to let go.  All the fixes worked with the RC.  But now . . . arghh! 

I've it disabled from startup through msconfig.  I've removed all entries from the Paradox\Programs directory and the registry.  I've left the EXE file in the directory and removed the command from the RUN section of the registry (all the other entries as well).  I've commented all the INI instructions so they don't execute.  If I remove the EXE file from the Paradox directory, then Paradox won't run without the installation disc which reinstalls the little pest.

I'm not an advanced user, but I have a small program I've been using for my business for several years.  Right now it's slow and a good time to do this installation.  I will need this to work properly by the first of the year.  (I know-messing with it on Christmas).

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Makemie Woods has just solved the problem that has frustrated me for years. Deleting the c:/PDOXUSERS.NET file allows the Paradox 7 files from my XP machine to run on Paradox 11 using Windows 7 professional.  Thanks

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Makemie Woods has just solved the problem that has frustrated me for years.

you are describing situations where you have left-over lock files in your folders.. not to be rude, but that's Paradox 101, and it basically means that you've been copying files while Paradox is open and/or you have been having Abort problems that you haven't addressed..

Paradox puts lock files in the folders you are accessing, to control multi-user sharing.. when you leave the folder, or leave Paradox, the lock files (or the pointers to you, if others are still there) go away automatically.. it's just like "the last person must turn off the lights"..

as I said at the beginning, if you copy a folder of files to another folder, another machine, etc., and there are still lock files there, that'll stop you dead in your tracks, one way or another..

if it's because the files were open and in use, don't do that..

if it's because there are Abort problems, you need to research and cure the Abort problems, because the Abort problems can lead to file damage and data loss, even if you're not copying them..

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To be fair, Vista's controls for the lock file in the root directory was a new problem, it couldn't be removed by the program on exit.  So when I installed Windows 7, the Vista lock file was still there, and wouldn't allow the program to initialize. 

I appreciate Microsoft's concern for preventing damage to our hard drives by malicious software, however in 7 I think there needs to be another level of security that is "I'm not an idiot, show me this message the first time this program tries to alter my computer or registry or whatever, but don't show it to me again after the first time."

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I appreciate Microsoft's concern for preventing damage to our hard drives by malicious software

I have Office 2000 Small Business on my Vista machine.. when I installed Excel, it made me go thru all the "unknown source" verification stuff.. that really inspires confidence in Microsoft (sigh)

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