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JBuilder 4 vs JBuilder 3

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I mainly use JBuilder 3 for my Java development (mainly servlets and applets). In order to take advantage of the newer Java technologies, I realize I will have to move to JBuilder 4 (or a competing product). We have some people using JBuilder 3.5 and it is a buggy, resource-hogging disaster (much worse than 3...), so I was wondering what other people's thoughts were on moving to 4.
I have played around a bit in 4 and noticed a few minor annoyances (the scroll button doesn't work for one!). Anything else you can warn me about?
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Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware the mousewheel problem was an inate Java problem, I thought it was poor implementations... Oops! Since I rarely use swing components, I never gave it much thought.. Of course, 1.4 is a long way off, we are still using 1.2.2_008 right now, though hoping to move to 1.3 soon, just worried about some deprecations...

All our development machines at work are minimum P3 600 and 256 MB RAM, although I agree, with today's RAM pricing, it is a good time to start expanding (my home P3 450 has 384 MB RAM and growing!)

And thanks for the insights on JBuilder 5. I will probably try it at home!
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Chris,

First off, from JBuilder 3.5 on, JBuilder is a 100% pure Java product. Version 3.5 was very transitional as it was the first in the line. JBuilder 4 improved on 3.5's shortcomings considerably (including speed) and JBuilder 5 is an outstanding product with even better performance. This is mainly due to the advent and improvement of the Hotspot compilers that the Java Runtime Environments (JRE) now employ. I think you'd find - after you get used to the UI changes in moving from JBuilder 3 to JBuilder 4 - that JBuilder 4 and 5 are superior development products.

As for the lack of mousewheel support, you'll have to complain to Sun about that. Since their JDK 1.2 and 1.3 don't support the mousewheel, JBuilder isn't able to directly support it either. When JDK 1.4 ships that problem should solve itself since JDK 1.4 includes mousewheel support. It will also include more speed enhancments.

My only other suggestiong with respect to performance is to remember that in the case of Java - the more RAM the better. A 128MB machine will *not* suffice for running an IDE like JBuilder. I would suggestion 192MB at a minimum. My development machines each have 512MB (that's right - half a gigabyte of RAM). At $99 USD for 256MB, it's not that much money to have that much RAM.

And in case you're curious, you can download JBuilder Personal Edition 5.0 from the Borland JBuilder website and try that IDE and judge for yourself what you think of it.

Hope this helps...
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Chris,

First, you're more than welcome. I'm always glad to talk shop about Java in general and JBuilder in particular.. Big Grin!

Also,your P3 600's with 256 sound like pretty solid machines. What OS are you running? I run Win2k server on machine configurations similar to yours and JBuilder 4 and 5 are both screaming fast on it (moreso the case with JBuilder 5).

When you get JBuilder 5 be sure to drop a line here and let me know what you think...!

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